In Conversation: Carl Craig on Party/After-Party and his favorite Moritz Von Oswald tracks

Written By: 
Phil Cho
Tags: 
Share:
  •  

Don’t miss Carl Craig, Moritz Von Oswald, King Britt, and DJ Holographic this Thursday at MOCA Geffen.

Detroit techno visionary Carl Craig needs little introduction, but for our readers who are further away or new to the techno and dance music world, here’s a quick breakdown of one of the greatest to do it:

Carl Craig emerged from Detroit’s second wave of techno in the early ’90s alongside Underground Resistance’s (Mad) Mike Banks, Jeff Mills, Robert Hood, and others. Under a multitude of aliases including Innerzone Orchestra, 69, BFC, Paperclip People, Psyche, along with his own name, Craig has amassed a seriously deep catalog of innovative and influential records ranging in styles from techno, breakbeats, future jazz, ambient, and more. As label head of Planet E Communications, Craig has elevated and influenced generations of artists including Moodymann, Recloose, Urban Tribe (DJ Stingray), Kenny Larkin, DJ Minx, and many others.

Craig’s latest project is something entirely new, though not unfamiliar to those who have been following his musical career. Party/After-Party is an immersive sound installation that invites visitors into the mind of a touring club DJ. Originally commissioned by Dia Art Foundation, the piece has recently found its second home at the MOCA Geffen in Little Tokyo. Admission is free to the public.

“The work itself is a reflection of my reality — the visual, sonic, and emotional connections or disconnections that I have experienced over the past thirty years as a DJ on the road.”

From MOCA Geffen: “Party/After-Party is a visceral sound and somatic experience that evolves with each new iteration. Drawing on Craig’s 30-year career as an internationally touring DJ, Party/After-Party guides visitors sonically through a club night from the perspective of the DJ. Starting in those moments before the crowd arrives and the DJ spins alone, before reaching its crescendo with the party’s pulsing apex, and finally slipping towards the melancholic embrace of the after-party, the work evokes the collective ecstasy and desolation found only on a club dance floor.”

Carl Craig’s Party/After-Party Sound Installation at Dia Beacon

This Thursday, May 25th MOCA x Insomniac & Secret Project will be presenting the first of three Party/After-Party live sessions. Join Carl Craig, Moritz Von Oswald, King Britt, and DJ Holographic for a not-to-be-missed dance party in the museum! Later sessions will feature Moodymann, Kenny Larkin, Kyle Hall, DJ Minx, and Erno…

Tickets available now: https://www.moca.org/program/party-after-party-sessions-1

In anticipation of the show this Thursday, In Sheep’s Clothing’s Phil Cho spoke with Carl Craig over the phone to learn more about his installation’s latest chapter in Los Angeles, post-club listening rituals, and his favorite Moritz Von Oswald tracks.

Hi Carl! First of all, happy belated birthday and thank you for taking the time to chat. Are you in Detroit or LA right now? How was yesterday?

I’m in Detroit. It was a good birthday. Had a lot of friends around. I have too much food here at home now so I have to find some people to eat it…

I’m sure there'll be plenty of people around. I'm excited for the concert this Thursday. Party/After-Party was first shown in 2020 at an unprecedented time when museums were open, but clubs were not. With this second chapter of the installation, and clubs fully back open, how does it feel presenting the piece in this context?

It’s become more important to me now, especially with this piece, that it doesn’t follow the path of the club world, if you know what I mean. When we did it at Beacon, what was important about it from the beginning was that it was not in New York City. New York City has enough clubs, so to do an experience like that in the middle of all that, it would have felt like people had too much of a reference point. Doing it in Beacon, you had to go out to get the experience and it’s different than if it was competing against a club or something because there’s no bar. Beacon has a beautiful landscape outside which makes it even more poetic how the piece presents itself. 

In comparison to New York City, Los Angeles is different but it’s the same in some kind of way. Club culture isn’t huge in LA. There’s more of a warehouse culture but it’s not like you can go every Wednesday through Sunday to these clubs that are similar to what I’m referencing in my piece. You can get the warehouse experience, but the West Coast feels like it’s more festivals, more outdoor stuff. Coachella is a big thing. So to do this in LA, it actually worked out for the philosophy of how I made the piece because, again, you can’t just go on a Wednesday to Ministry of Sound, or go on a Friday to Fabric, or go on a Saturday to Tresor or something.

Carl Craig remixes “Domina” by Maurizio, an early project by Moritz Von Oswald

I’ve only experienced it once, but I read that in terms of the music played the parts evolve, interact, and change so that no two playings are exactly the same. Can you talk a bit about the composition?

So the first segment, the Party, is designed to make you feel the build that would happen in going to a club or warehouse party. The second part, the After-Party, is to give an idea of how I deal with tinnitus and the angst after the party is over. The energy is still going through my veins and through my body, but I’m getting nervous that I’m going to lose my hearing, et cetera, et cetera. So the second part has a lot of stray sounds, and it has high pitches and tones, some that are very high and then some that are lower. White noise. All these elements that I hear when it gets quiet in the room, or like right now, tonight, I’m just hearing a high pitched tone that’s always there. Then the heavy droning basses and all that kind of stuff represent that angst, that high energy that I feel after the party is done. Sometimes you just can’t go to sleep.

Speaking of tinnitus, do you have a particular listening practice at home or ritual that you follow when listening outside of a club context?

A long time ago I started listening to classical music after the club. That was going in the right direction, but right now for me, it’s brown noise. Brown noise is white noise with the high end cut down. White Noise goes maybe all the way up to 15,000 Hz. Brown noise maybe only goes up to 8,000 Hz or maybe a little lower than that. It’s supposed to stimulate waterfalls. I’ve always felt that the natural sound of water was healing for me to go to the beach or to be out in the ocean. With brown noise, I can put it in my headphones real low on a plane or walking around, but low where I can still hear everything. I can talk to people, I can do all these things. That Brown noise is just a constant, almost like cleansing of my hearing. I do that because I also want to be able to hear and concentrate on sounds that are low in level, so that I can interpret what it is and it can be intelligible.

When we get older, and I see it with my parents, the TV volume goes up and it stays up all the way, and even when it’s super loud, they still can’t hear it. Of course, that happens from when you’re a kid anyway, that you listen to stuff loud. Nobody’s trying not to listen to loud things when you’re a kid. You’re listening loud and it just keeps getting louder and louder and louder. I do it in the reverse where now I listen to things low so that I can understand this conversation that we’re having on the telephone without being turned up to 1000%.

“Party/After-Party is definitely not a piece that plays to the crowd so I don’t want my DJs and live performers worried about having to play to a crowd as well. They should have total freedom of artistic expression.”

I’d love to know more about the upcoming live sessions. Did you approach these shows differently than you would a warehouse party?

Definitely. I wanted to make sure that we had a good representation of the music that I’m involved with or that influenced me. That was really important to pay attention to. Also, because it’s an art museum event, having King Britt do a total modular set is something that I feel really works quite well with this angle, in comparison to being at a warehouse party. In some warehouse parties, you find that people have less patience for artistic endeavors. And I want this to be a complete artistic endeavor so I’m open for King to do whatever he wants to do, for Moritz to do, for Holographic. I want all of us to just have a great conversation, and play the music that we really are going to feel most comfortable playing in this environment instead of trying to play to the crowd. Party/After-Party is definitely not a piece that plays to the crowd so I don’t want my DJs and live performers worried about having to play to a crowd as well. They should have total freedom of artistic expression.

The first concert is on Thursday, May 25th and features DJ Holographic (Detroit), King Britt (Philadelphia / San Diego), and Moritz Von Oswald (Berlin). How did you choose the lineup for this session? 

Moritz Von Oswald (Berlin): Moritz was with me for the opening of the piece at Dia. We did a hybrid live set together, so it was only logical for me to have Mo come again. Every time this piece opens, I would love to have Mo come and be a part of it. He’s a great friend and musical partner.

King Britt (Philadelphia / San Diego): I’ve known King Britt since 1991. When I put out my first Planet E record, King was working at Tower and I sent it to him because I knew he was a buyer for the store. That was the beginning of us having this great musical love affair over the last 30 odd years. Also, King was a part of Alex Sloane (Curator of Performance and Programs at MOCA) chasing after the project to be at MOCA. So that made complete sense to me as well to have King involved because I feel that King is part of the reason why Party/After-Party is at MOCA today. 

DJ Holographic (Detroit): She’s a wonderful DJ, but a wonderful person as well. Her and DJ Minx are real hot coming from Detroit right now. With Holographic, I felt she was a great addition to what we’re doing because I think that she’ll understand what we’re going for musically and she’ll follow through with it in her own special way.

You’ll be playing a live set with Moritz Von Oswald on Thursday. Can you share a few of your favorite productions from him?

Basic Channel – The Climax (Basic Reshape)

Moritz’s work with Mark Ernestus as Basic Channel and Rhythm & Sound is definitely still music that I listen to for inspiration. That whole dub techno sound that they were able to pioneer.

Moritz von Oswald – Watamu Beach Rework

This was for Loco Dice’s label Desolat and was by a guy named Sebbo. I think that’s a great remix. 

Carl Craig & Moritz von Oswald – Attenuator (Moritz von Oswald Dub)

Our recent track together “Attenuator,” I think it’s a great piece. Both mixes are wonderful. 




Moritz von Oswald & Ordo Sakhna

He brought that album over to my house before we started working together. That was definitely a piece of music that cemented me to say, okay, let’s work on some new tracks together. Let’s definitely work on some new tracks together…




Moritz Von Oswald Trio – Vertical Ascent

Cosima Von Bonin is the sculptor who made those pieces on the album artwork. Cosima is really a lot of fun, quite a funny person to meet. Moritz including those pieces on his covers was quite inspirational to me. It harkens back to old jazz records where there was this combination going between visual art and music. I’m really hyped that he did that for those albums.

Related Articles

Sort By
12th Isle
2 Tone
2020
2022
2023
33rpm
45rpm
4AD
5 Selects
7"
99 Records
A&M
Abbey Lincoln
Aboriginal
Abstract
Ace Tone
Acid
Acid Archives
Acid Folk
Acid House
Acid Punk
Acid rock
Acoustic
Adrian Sherwood
Africa
African
Afro
Afro House
Afro-Cuban
Afrobeat
Alan Ginsberg
Alan Greenberg
Alan Thicke
Albert Ayler
Album Cover
Alex Patterson
Alice Coltrane
All Genre
Altec
Amaro Freitas
Amazon Music
Ambient
Ambient Jazz
ambient techno
American Primitive
Amoeba Music
Amplifier
Analog
Anatolian Rock
Andrew Weatherall
Andy Warhol
Anenon
Animal
Animation
Anna Butterss
Antonio Zepeda
AOR
Aphex Twin
Aquarium Drunkard
Archie Shepp
Archival
Armenia
Art
Art & Design
Art Dudley
Art Film
Art Pop
Art Rock
Artform Radio
Arthur Russell
Article
Arvo Part
Ash Ra Temple
Asian Underground
Audiogon
Audiophile
Audiovisual
Austin Peralta
Australia
Autechre
avant
Avant-Garde
Avant-pop
Avant-Rock
Avent-Garde
Balearic
Bali
Ballad
Bargain Bin
Baroque
Baroque Pop
Basquiat
Bass
Bauhaus
Bayou Funk
BBC
BBC Radiophonic
Beat Scene
Beats
Beats in Space
Bebop
Belgium
Bennie Maupin
Berlin-school
Best of 2020
Beverly Glenn​-​Copeland
Bhutan Stamps
Big Band
Bill Laswell
Black Ark Studios
Black Jazz
Blaxsploitation
Blue Note
Blues
Blues Rock
Bob Marley
Bola Sete
Bollywood
Boogie
Book
books
Boredoms
Bossa
Bossa Nova
Brainfeeder
Brazil
Brazilian Folk
Breakbeat
Breezy
Brian Eno
Bruce Weber
Bruton Music
Buddhism
Budget Audiophiler
Cabaret
Calypso
Cambridge Audio
CAN
Candombe
Cannanes
Canterbury
Cape Jazz
Cape Verde
Caribbean
Carla Bley
Cartridges
Casio
Cassette
Cats
CD
Celluloid
Chamber Jazz
Chamber Music
Chan Marshall
Channel One Studios
Chanson
Charles Lloyd
Charles Mingus
Chee Shimizu
Chet Baker
Chicago
Chillout
Chiptune
Choral
Christmas
City Pop
Classic Album Sundays
Classical
Classics
Clothing
Club
Cocteau Twins
Coctueau Twins
Coffee
Coldwave
Colorfield
Comedy
Commercial
Community
Compass
Compass Point
Compilation
Concept Album
Condesa Electronics
Conlon Nancarrow
Conny Plank
Contemporary Jazz
Cool Jazz
Cornelius
Cosmic
Cosmic Disco
Cosmic Folk
cosmic jazz
Country
Country Pop
Country-Rock
Covers
Cult Classic
Cumbia
DAC
Dacne
Daft Punk
Dance
Dance Music
Dancehall
Daniel Aged
Dark
Dark Entries
David Behrman
David Bowie
David Byrne
Davida
Dedicated listening session
Deep Dive
Deep House
Deep Listen
Deep Listening
Delia Derbyshire
Demo
Dennis Bovell
Denon
Detroit
Devotional
DFA
Diasporic Disco
Dick Verdult
Diggin in the Mags
Digi-Reggae
Disco
Discogs
DIY
DIY / Amateur
DJ
DJ Shadow
Documentary
Dogs
Don Buchla
Don Cherry
Donald Byrd
Doom Metal
Downtempo
Dowtempo
Dr. John
Dream House
Dream Pop
Dreamy
Drone
Drum Break
Drum Machine
Drum n Bass
Drums
Dual
Dub
Dub Poetry
Dub Techno
dublab
Dubwise
Durutti Column
Düsseldorf School
Dust and Grooves
Eames
Earl King
Early Electronic
East African
Easy Listening
Eblen Macari
EBM
ECM
ecoustic
ecoustics
Electric Lady
Electro
Electronic
Electronic Jazz
Electronica
Elegant Pop
Elvin Jones
Emahoy Tsegué-Maryam
Enossified
Environmental Music
EOY
Eric Dolphy
ESG
Esoteric
ESP Institute
Essential Listen
Essential Listening
Essential Listenning
Ethereal
Ethiopian Jazz
Ethnic
Event
Events
Exotica
Experimental
Factory Records
Faye Wong
Feel Good All Over
Fela Kuti
Festival
Field recording
Films
Fingertracks
Fingetracks
Fishing with John
Fleetwood Sound Company
Floating
Floating Points
Folk
Folk Funk
Folk-Rock
Fonts
Footwork
Fourth World
France
Free Improvisation
Free Jazz
Friends of ISC
Frippertronics
Fundraiser
Funk
Fusion
G-Funk
G.S. Schray
Gal Costa
Gamelan
Garage Rock
Garrard
Gems from the Dollar Bin
George Martin
George Oban
German techno
Gifts
Gilberto Gil
Giorgio Moroder
Glam Rock
Glitch
Gogo
Gospel
Grado
Graphic Novel
Grateful Dead
Group Sounds
Growing Bin
Guide
Guitar
Gwo Ka
Gypsy
Habitat Ensemble
Haçienda Club
halloween
Hard Bop
Hard Rock
Harold Budd
Harp
Harry Nilsson
Haruomi Hosono
headphones
Heavy Metal
Henry Lewy
Herbie Hancock
hi-fi
hi-NRG
Hidden Gem
Highlife
Hip Hop
Hip-Hop
Hiroshi Yoshimura
history
Holger Czukay
Holiday
Hollywood
Holy Grail
Home Listening
House
Hypnotic
Iasos
Ibiza
IDM
Illbient
Illustration
Improvisation
Impulse!
In Conversation
In Stock
India
Indian
Indian Classical
Indie
Indie Rock
Industrial
Ingmar Bergman
Installation
Instrumental
International
Interview
ISC Classic
ISC Collection
isc guide
ISC NYC
ISC Record Store
ISC Selects
Island Records
Isolation
Italo Disco
Italo House
Italy
Jackie McLean
Jah Shaka
Jamaica
James Baldwin
Jangle Pop
Japan
Japananese
Japanese
Jazz
jazz funk
jazz kissa
Jazz-funk
Jazz-rock
JBL
John Coltrane
John Fahey
John Martyn
Jon Hassell
Joni Mitchell
Judee Sill
Jungle
K-pop
K. Leimer
Kankyo Ongaku
Keiji Haino
Keith Haring
Keith Jarrett
Kid-Friendly
Kim Yaffa
Kitty Records
Klaus Schulze
Klipsch
Kompakt
Kosmiche
Kosmische
KPM
Kraftwerk
Kranky
Krautrock
Kruatrock
Kuduro
kwaito
L.Shankar
La Monte Young
Labels We Love
Lafawndah
Lagniappe Sessions
Laraaji
Larry Levan
Last Resort
Laswell
Latin
Latin Jazz
Laurel Canyon
Laurie Spiegel
Leaving Records
Lebanese
Lee Scratch Perry
Left-field
Leftfield
Lena Horne
Les Baxter
Lester Bowie
Library
Library Music
Liquid Liquid
Listening
Listening bar
Listening Party
Listening Session
Live Performance
Live Recording
Loose Ends
Loren Mazzacane Connors
Los Angeles
Lost & Sound
lost and sound
Louisiana Blues
Lounge
Lounge Lizards
Love Songs
Lovefingers
Lovely Music Ltd.
Lovers Rock
Luaka Bop
Mad Professor
Magazine
Mandopop
Marantz
Marcel Duchamp
Marcella Cytrynowicz
Marcos Valle
Mark E. Smith
mbaqanga
McCoy Tyner
McIntosh
Meditation
Meditational
Meditative
Melancholic
Mellow
Melody As Truth
Meredith Monk
Metal
Mexico
Miami
Michael Franks
Microhouse
Mid-Century
Miles Davis
Milford Graves
Mills College
Minako Yoshida
Minimal
Minimal Techno
Minimal Wave
Minneapolis Sound
Mixes
Mixtape
Mizell Brothers
mo wax
Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs
Modal
Modern Classical
Modern Soul
Modular Synthesis
Moki Cherry
Mono
Mort Garson
Motown
MPB
MTV
Munich
Music Blog
Music from Memory
Music Interior
Music Therapy
Music Video
Musique Concrète
Mwandishi
Narrative
Neneh Cherry
Neo Soul
Neptunes
New Age
New Islands
New Jack Swing
New Music
New Orleans
New Wave
New York
News
Nico
Nightmares on Wax
Nina Simone
No Wave
Noise
Non-Profit
Northern Soul
Now Sound
NTS
Nubian Pop
Nubian Soul
Numero Group
NYC
OBI
Obscure
Obscure Sound
Occult
On Screen
On-U Sound
online radio
Opera
Organ
Organic
Organic Music
Ornette Coleman
Ortofon
Oswalds Mill Audio
Outsider Pop
Overtone Singing
Painting
Painting with John
Pandit Pran Nath
Paradise Garage
Pastoral
Patrick Cowley
Paul Horn
Paul McCartney
Pauline Oliveros
PBS
Penguin Cafe Orchestra
Pensive
Percussion
Pharoah Sanders
Phillip Glass
Philly Soul
Piano
Pioneer
Plantasia
Plants
Player Piano
playlist
Playlists
Plinth
Podcast
Poetry
Political
Polygonia
Pop
Pop Art
Pop not Slop
Pop Rock
Popp
Popul Vuh
Post Bop
Post Rock
Post-Punk
Post-Rock
Power Pop
Premiere
Prince
Private Press
Pro-Ject
Producer
Productions
Professor Longhair
Prog Rock
Progressive
Progressive Rock
Prophet-5
Proto-techno
Psych-folk
Psychedelic
Psychedelic Rock
Psychic Hotline
Psyhedelic
Punk
Qobuz
Quadraphonic
QUARK
Quiet Storm
R&B
Radio
Raga
Rare Groove
Ras G
rca victor
Receivers
Record Club
Record Fair
Record Label
Record Store
Record Stores
Record Stories
Reggae
Reggaeton
Reissue
Reissues
Releases
Religious
Remix
Retrospective
Rock
Rocksteady
Roland
Roland Kirk
Rolando Chía
Roller Skate
Room Recordings
Room Treatment
Roots Reggae
Rotary Mixers
Rough Trade
Rudy Van Gelder
Russia
Ryuichi Sakamoto
Ryuichi Sakmoto
Sacred
Sade
Sam Gendel
Samba
Sample
Samples
San Francisco
Saxophone
Sci-fi
Séance Centre
Seefeel
Sensual
Shamisen
share
Shibuya-kei
Shoegaze
Silver Apples
Simeon Coxe
Singer-Songwriter
Sisters with Transistors
Ska
Sly & Robbie
Smooth Jazz
Soft Rock
Solid State
Songwriting
Sonia Pottinger
Sonny Sharrock
Soul
Soul-jazz
Sound Art
Sound Collage
Sound Installation
Soundsystems
Soundtrack
South Africa
South African
South America
Southern Soul
Space Rock
Spain
Speaker
speakers
Spiritual
Spiritual Jazz
Spoken Word
Squama Records
Staff Picks
Steely Dan
Stereolab
Stereophile
Steven Halpern
Stevie Wonder
Stoner Rock
stores we love
Stories
Streaming
Street Soul
Studio One
Substack
Sun Ra
Sunn O)))
Supergroup
Surround Sound
Susumu Yokota
Suzanne Cianni
Suzanne Kraft
Suzanne Langille
Swamp Rock
SYNG
Synth
Synth Pop
Synth-pop
Synthesizer
Synthwave
Taarab
Tadanori Yokoo
Takoma Records
Tangerine Dream
Tannoy
Tape
Tapes
TD-160
Technics
Techno
Techno Pop
Tel Aviv
Television
Terry Callier
Terry Riley
The Beatles
The Broad
The Fall
The Loft
The Meters
The Mizell Brothers
The Music Center
The Orb
The World Stage
Theater
Thelonious Monk
Third Side Music
Third Stream
This Mortal Coil
Thomas Fehlman
Thorens
Tim Sweeney
Time Capsule
Too Pure Records
Total Luxury Spa
Traditional
Tribal
Trip-hop
Tropical
Tropicalia
Tuareg
Tube
Turntable
Turntable Lab
TV
UK
UK Jazz
Ultramarine
Underground Resistance
Underrated
Val Wilmer
Vandersteen
Vangelis
Vanity Fair
Velvet Underground
Vice
Video
Video Art
Vince Guaraldi
Vintage
Vintage Audio
Vintage Gear
vinyl
Virginia Astley
Visible Cloaks
Visual Art
Vocal
Vocal Jazz
Vocoder
Wackies
Wah Wah Watson
Walearic
Wally Badarou
Warp
Water
Website
Wendy Carlos
Werner Herzog
West Africa
West African
Western Acoustics
Windham Hill
wiring
World
Wrecking Crew
Yacht Rock
Yamaha
Yann Tomita
Yasuaki Shimizu
Yellow Magic Orchestra
Yma Sumac
YouTube
Yukihiro Takahashi
Zamrock
Zither